Bertino v Vidoz

[razor]

Hello Fillipo. You are right, Vidoz deserved the victory.
Sadly most of the decisions saturday were bad, I dont want to hear more talk about Germany being the most corrupt boxing country.
After saturday Denmark is nr1....

[Jan]

I have to disagree on that one ... the three fights were very close - and close fights often goes to the homefighter. Germany (and Italy - and for that mater Denmark) has seen clear losers given the win - that was not the case saterday. It was a mater of very close fights going to the hometown boxer. So in my view there is no reason to call this a scandal - and it's by no means enough to take Germany's top-rank as boxing-corrupt

[Jens S]

I had for Vidoz with 77-75. Fairly close, but I think it was a gift.

[pap]

77-76 for Vidoz on my card, very close though, can´t say it was a bad decision though.

But Paolo needs to get in better shape - he´s still a capable boxer but was too heavy.

And Bertino showed improved defence and held up well under pressure.

Per-Åke Persson

[razor]

I have to disagree on that one ... the three fights were very close - and close fights often goes to the homefighter. Germany (and Italy - and for that mater Denmark) has seen clear losers given the win - that was not the case saterday. It was a mater of very close fights going to the hometown boxer. So in my view there is no reason to call this a scandal - and it's by no means enough to take Germany's top-rank as boxing-corrupt

I never used the word " Scandal" However I said the judges were corrupt. Ask 10 people who saw the event and the 8 will agree with me.
I suddenly remembered why I dont miss Team Palles fight cards...

[Jan]

Well with all due respect - Palle's cards weren't very often this hard matched - harder matching = closer fights.

As for the "scandal" - I was just thinking of the frase about Denmark being more corrupt than Germany - I don't think that is the case - not even by a long shot. Some of the judging mght have been small gifts - but there was no thefts - we've had plenty of those in Germany ... Denmark is still far behind Germany in that area - and Italy for that mater.

[Filippo Olari]

Thank you boys for write in english and tell what's your opinion!

It's very important for me and all the people involved in Paolo Vidoz's homepage to know that.

The "homemade verdict"  it's a big problem in Germany and in Italy too, there's no difference, it's a cancer for our favorite sport like the boxing oranization fragmentation. I didnt know Danish situation before saturday.

It's a very sad situation that EBU or nationals federations don't want to resolve the problem.

[Jan]

Well the organisations are dependent on the money the promotors pay them - and the promotors are "dependent" on their boxers winning most of the time. The promotors also pay the salery of the judges ringside - and if a judge is a it too "fair", then he will proberbly not be invited the next time.

This is of course a simplification - but I believe that much of the problem is in the above.

Only ones with the power to change it is us ... if nobody wants to watch, then they will change it ... and there is plenty of viewers at the moment ... just look at the Ottke reign in Germany for instance.

[Munch]

The fight was very close. I think it was a fair dicision. A MD victory for Vidoz would have been a fair dicision also.

[Kasper Jørgensen]

I had it 5 rounds to 3 for Vidoz, swap 1 round and you have a draw..fair enough, i dont agree with Bertino winning though.

[Jim]

I just wathced the fight yesterday, almost 2 weeks after the event, without knowing the outcome in advance.

Bertino won the fight. I don't think it was as close as the others here, and certainly not a robbery, not even a home-decision.
Paolo was too passive, and a lot of his punches was in Bertinos guards, but his punches were the heaviest/hardest.
Bertino was faster, quicker on the reflexes, and hit more clearly and cleanly, though not as hard, and controlled the fight and the pace.

If/when he can get in better shape so he can keep up the pace for 8 rounds (he has never been past he 6 round mark before) he would have won more clearly.

If you take away the celebrity/ex-champ effect of Paolo, and the home-fighter/exciting-newcomer effect of Bertino and watch it as a fight between 2 completely unknown fighters, I think the judges had it just right.